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carolina
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Posted - 02/01/2013 :  02:21:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I donīt know how to link the micromodules to repeat the insteon signs.
anyone can help me?.

I couldnīt find anything in the leaflet.


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BLH
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Posted - 02/01/2013 :  03:20:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you don't have the Full Users Manual that may give more details.
http://www.insteon.net/support.html
http://www.insteon.net/pdf/2444-x22.pdf
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carolina
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Spain
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Posted - 02/01/2013 :  07:10:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have the the manuals. Can you show me where is information about link micromodules. For they repeat the insteon signs.
Thank in advance/ Carolina
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jdale
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Posted - 02/01/2013 :  07:38:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit jdale's Homepage  Reply with Quote
When you say "to repeat the insteon signs" do you mean how to take advantage of their ability to hear and repeat Insteon messages, so that other devices are more likely to receive those messages? That is, to function as dual-band repeaters?

If so, you don't need to do anything. They will do this as soon as they are installed, it's automatic. There is a test to ensure that it is bridging the legs of the electrical system, which is diagnostic but not required. It's listed in the PDF that BLH linked, on page 19, under the title "Phase Bridge Detect Beacon/RF Range Test".

Insteon FAQ: http://goo.gl/qNTNr
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stusviews
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Posted - 02/01/2013 :  11:46:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you mean sending a signal to the Micro Module does not control the Micro Module's links, then it is working correctly.

If you want a device to control more than one other device, you must link it as a controller of all the device you want it to control.

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carolina
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Posted - 02/07/2013 :  08:23:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok, thank you. You are right they are repeating signals. But when a install them , 5 or 6 meters lengh one from the other they stop working. Is it that normal. ? The hub is 10 meters long and with 3 walls in the middle.
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stusviews
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Posted - 02/07/2013 :  10:29:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Insteon signal travels on the powerline, so that distance should no matter. I'm not familiar enough with electric distribution in Spain, but my guess is that it's a phase coupling issue.

Do you have three main wires (mains?) or two entering your home?

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BLH
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Posted - 02/07/2013 :  12:15:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Electricity Around the World web site. Says Spain 230 Volts 50 cycles.
What is the model number of your modules? There are different part numbers for modules made for other areas of the world.

If you are using any type of 230 volt to 120 volt converters the Insteon Power Line signals will most likely not pass through them.

Also if your modules are not sold for 50 or 50/60 cycle use. The 50 cycles will mess up the Insteon Timing and again will not work.
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stusviews
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Posted - 02/07/2013 :  1:47:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Brian, the Micro Modules are rated for 100-240VAC @ 50/60Hz, so that's not a problem. But electricity in Europe differs from that in N.A., often 2 of the 3-phases is delivered to the home. But, even that varies by region.

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BLH
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Posted - 02/07/2013 :  3:22:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Stu. I must have missed that on the sales pages.
The full users manual does indicate the voltage and frequency.

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Tfitzpatri8
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Posted - 02/07/2013 :  4:02:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought BLH was asking to confirm matching frequencies. All Insteon RF-enabled gear is *not* interchangeable. 50 Hz-capable gear designed for the Americas, for Europe and for NZ uses three different *incompatible* RF frequencies, so if the OP is trying to mix and match gear for different regions he'll have trouble.

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carolina
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Spain
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Posted - 02/10/2013 :  12:35:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The micromodules are Ok for my tension and frequency, this is not the problem. The problem is that when they are more than 10 meters one from the other, without walls, the signal is missing. It is kike they only receive signals from the Hub.
Another question is that the hub doesnīt send any x10 signals. Do you know when will it be able to do it ?
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carolina
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Posted - 02/10/2013 :  01:57:35 AM  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In Spain most houses have one phase or live and the neutral cable. 230 v 50 Hz. Monophasic system
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stusviews
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Posted - 02/10/2013 :  12:26:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by carolina
The problem is that when they are more than 10 meters one from the other, without walls, the signal is missing. It is kike they only receive signals from the Hub.


That's certainly less than the stated RF range of nearly 46 meters. But they should communicate over the powerline, same as the Hub. How are you testing the range? In particular, describe the location of each Micro Module and the method being used.


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carolina
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Posted - 02/18/2013 :  03:40:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit carolina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I found the trouble, the antenna cable of my micro shutter was broken.
Thanks




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