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joshlee
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 Posted - 06/17/2012 : 7:32:22 PM
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we live in a rural area and there is not an insteon installer within 100 miles, so looks like i am on my on. My house is about 2200 sq ft family farmhouse and i plan on trying to install a basic home automation. I will be using an ipad with irule to control it.(you can control insteon with irule correct?) we are having a baby in september so i will be on a budget of around 1000. I will be trying to use insteon for two dimmers, two standard switches(if insteon makes them have not seen them in research) and at the most two plug in for lamps.) In the not to distant future maybe a year i plan on adding hvac outside security lights and door lock. that is all insteon will be used for. i want all of these to be connected to the internet as i am a farmer and construction worker and sometimes night i have to stay overnight and my wife will stay with her parents and i sure she will forget to turn off lights at house!
This is where i get confused i am not sure what product i need to purchase to be able to do this project. i understand i need to get dimmers etc.. but i am confused about the product that links all these products together and to the web. being i am using the irule to control them could i get by without having something like the isy9941. also i have read some bad reviews about the 2412n so if possible i would like to try something else.
thanks so much for your time. |
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stusviews
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 12:52:55 PM
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Other than the Insteon devices themselves, no other equipment is required to create an Insteon network. A SmartLinc or ISY allows internet access. Other software and hardware exists that also provides off-site access.
iRule support for Insteon seems to be either the ISY or SmartLinc. No other interfaces are mentioned.
What are the negatives you read about the SmartLinc (other than initial set-up difficulties that are nearly always resolved)? Any links? |
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joshlee
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 1:40:33 PM
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| The negative reviews were from amazon and mostly were related to what you said and defective modules I believe. So with the irule i would still need a central controller? Do you think I would be okay with the 2412 because I really do not want to spend the extra money on the isy99? Also in my house I have two panel boxes how would this affect the performance of the switches? Say if I had the 2412 plugged into modem and the power line that runs to the breaker on one panel could I still control a dimmer switch that was about 60ft away in another room on a different panel box? Thanks so much I am really wanting to try this I believe I can do it for under my budget also and expand my accessories along the way. |
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stusviews
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USA
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 2:13:26 PM
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You will need a way to couple the legs of the split single-phase electric supply. The most common way is to use any two correctly located dual-band devices. You can mix and match.
Depending on the layout and supply at the panels you may need two per panel, but one pair is usually adequate. More than two may increase reliability and RF coverage.
Some so called defective SmartLinc modules may be because the user was unable to accomplish the initial installation. It usually goes smoothly, but requires a rudimentary knowledge of you modem. It's all explained in the on-line manual and plenty of help is available on this forum as well as the Insteon Gold Line. Not to worry 
BTW, with the SmartLinc and the free Insteon app, you won't need anything else to control your Insteon network via the internet. |
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joshlee
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 06/19/2012 : 07:56:42 AM
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| Okay so even though I have two panels I basically still have two legs of power that need to be connected correct? Could I connect these by looking at the panel and seeing which leg power which rooms? Also has anybody had problems with interference of other rf products? My main concern and my only rf signal that I am aware of is a wireless dog fence system by petsafe, it sends out a signal and when the dog crosses the signal line it corrects him. If it shocked my dog ever time I turned on off lights he probably be very pissed ha! The rec frequency is 18khz |
Edited by - joshlee on 06/19/2012 08:02:44 AM |
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Tfitzpatri8
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 06/19/2012 : 07:59:59 AM
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| No worries, the Insteon RF signals do not shock your dog! |
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joshlee
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 06/19/2012 : 08:10:08 AM
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| I am not so much worried about the actuall signal shocking him but the signals interferring with the signal that the wireless transmitter sends out and causing the transmitter to send a shock. The transmitter works on 18khz. So you still think I would be okay? Thanks |
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Tfitzpatri8
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USA
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Posted - 06/19/2012 : 08:18:08 AM
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| Insteon works in the 900 MHz spectrum...no problem. |
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stusviews
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 06/19/2012 : 12:07:16 PM
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Originally posted by joshlee
Okay so even though I have two panels I basically still have two legs of power that need to be connected correct? Could I connect these by looking at the panel and seeing which leg power which rooms?
Usually not, unless you're familiar with how panels are bussed and understand full-height, half-height, and yoked circuit breakers. It's often easier to bridge the legs using dual-band devices.
You can determine which circuits power each wall/ceiling outlet. However, you can have many circuits, but only two electric legs. |
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please help with possible insteon install.
