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Trevor
Average Member
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yroca23
New Member
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 Posted - 01/18/2008 : 7:46:13 PM
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Originally posted by Trevor
Now taking preorders for Thermostat Adapter + 1-Day Programmable Thermostat:
http://www.smarthome.com/2491t1.html
Trevor - that is great. Can we expect to see bundle discounts for the other two models (the 1800 and the 1900) as well? |
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jcthorne
Average Member
101 Posts |
Posted - 01/19/2008 : 08:49:19 AM
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| I would be interested in a bundle with the 1900 thermostat as the one day does not support multistage cooling and heating systems. Also the 1900 includes the humidistat functions. |
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RichTJ99
Junior Member
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Posted - 01/25/2008 : 5:20:39 PM
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| Would this work with a W800 RF reciever using homeseer (as I am currently using it to listen to X10 motion sensor data). Does this require the IRlinc? |
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MikeB
Advanced Member
USA
1753 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2008 : 6:14:04 PM
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| This needs an Insteon AccessPoint to send it commands. You should ask the author of the HomeSeer Insteon driver if he will add support for the upcoming Insteon thermostat. |
Michael D. Boulanger
interfaceGO
www.interfaceGO.com
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RichTJ99
Junior Member
33 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2008 : 6:37:28 PM
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Well, I have the 2442 signal linc (coupler) currently. I am guessing that wont work.
http://www.smarthome.com/2442.html
I would need this?
http://www.smarthome.com/2443.html
So the W800 doesnt do anything related to the thermostat then. If the Access point is installed, it would be a pure Homeseer/insteon driver issue?
Thanks,
Rich
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MikeB
Advanced Member
USA
1753 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2008 : 6:55:46 PM
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If you're thinking about purchasing a RemoteLinc, SmartHome had a trade-up program where you'd buy 2 AccessPoints, send back your SignalLincs, and get a "free" RemoteLinc.
Otherwise, yes - you'd add an AccessPoint to communicate with the thermostat.
The W800 is X10, so that won't help you. |
Michael D. Boulanger
interfaceGO
www.interfaceGO.com
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bcmayes
Average Member
98 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2008 : 09:49:40 AM
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Originally posted by Rob
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Originally posted by apopilot
I have 5 wires. Will this do the job?
As long as you get power to the tstat you should be fine.
How will I know this? What do I look for. I currentlly have an old Robert Shaw thermostat and the house appears to have been wired by the laziest electrician the previous owners could find.
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MikeB
Advanced Member
USA
1753 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2008 : 11:19:01 AM
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How will I know this? What do I look for. I currently have an old Robert Shaw thermostat and the house appears to have been wired by the laziest electrician the previous owners could find.
Check behind your thermostat to see how many wires are in the cable run from your HVAC unit. If it's 5 or more, you're OK. Read the installation manual for the thermostat. If it's greek to you, consider hiring someone to install it.
If you only have 4 wires, you will need to run a new cable or purchase this device:
http://www.venstar.com/Thermostats/ACC0410/
Read the manual for the device. If it's greek to you, consider hiring someone to install it.
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Michael D. Boulanger
interfaceGO
www.interfaceGO.com
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Trevor
Average Member
USA
147 Posts |
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yroca23
New Member
23 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2008 : 7:53:15 PM
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Originally posted by Trevor
Now taking preorders for Thermostat Adapter + 7-Day Programmable Thermostat:
http://www.smarthome.com/2491t7.html
Excellent - but please don't leave out the 1900! I am waiting for the bundle to order it. Thanks Trevor. |
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FrayAdjacent
Junior Member
USA
45 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2008 : 9:48:37 PM
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I'm new to this stuff, and definitely want the thermostats in my house (dual level controls) to be part of my automation.
I'm not IN my house yet, I'm in the middle of the buying process. It's a new house, so hopefully that will be advantageous to the situation. I think the heat is a gas furnace, but I don't know what the rest is specifically.
Assuming I do have 5+ wires for both thermostats, and I want to use a computer to control the schedule they run on... would the 1 day units or 7 day units be better? Does that depend on what is in the house? What software would easily control them?
As a noob to this, sometimes what I see is a little daunting. A lot of TLAs (Three Letter Acronyms) get thrown out there, and it ends up being a bit confusing. The wiki has a little helpful stuff, but is really not populated well. SmartHome's site and component listings read like infomercials and don't seem to be very informative on the 'how to' do something part of the equation, they're more of a 'what you can do' type of description.
Anyway, I hope it's all much simpler than it seems. I just want to control some lighting (via switches and a few wall sockets) and thermostats... later on I'd want to add access control (I'd love to hit a button on a remote control and unlock my door and set a scene)
I'll keep reading! |
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RichTJ99
Junior Member
33 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2008 : 08:46:07 AM
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Fray,
I would suggest looking into Homeseer. I bought my copy from SH & its great! It does just about everything you would want in terms of taking control of your insteon (and other brand) products.
If you were going to rely strictly on a PC to control your thermostat at all times, without ever using the 1 or 7 day programming, I would tell you to get the 1 day as its cheaper & the PC will control the thermostat anyway.
If your computer is not on 24/7 & you want the ability to make sure the thermostat is doing its job, then I would get the 7 day model.
Good luck!
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sirhelper
Starting Member
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Posted - 02/16/2008 : 3:11:40 PM
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Looks like the units are in stock!
Great.
Trevor, I'd like the 1900 bundled in a kit too please.
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FrayAdjacent
Junior Member
USA
45 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2008 : 9:21:05 PM
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Originally posted by RichTJ99
Fray,
I would suggest looking into Homeseer. I bought my copy from SH & its great! It does just about everything you would want in terms of taking control of your insteon (and other brand) products.
If you were going to rely strictly on a PC to control your thermostat at all times, without ever using the 1 or 7 day programming, I would tell you to get the 1 day as its cheaper & the PC will control the thermostat anyway.
If your computer is not on 24/7 & you want the ability to make sure the thermostat is doing its job, then I would get the 7 day model.
Good luck!
Rich
Rich,
Thanks, I'll look into Homeseer! I'm considering getting either (another) ASUS EEEPC or finding a laptop with a busted screen to use as an always-on computer for home. I also have thought to connect a large external hard drive (powered off and on by a OutletLinc) for backup purposes. Connect to my network over wifi. Being a laptop, it could withstand power outages and run off of it's battery.
I figured the 1 day units would be better. They're $40 cheaper for the bundle, and I'd need two, so that would save me $80.
I know I'll have to get a PowerLinc Controller and at least one Access Point... I'd start with one of the starter kits, but I'd rather have the wall switch replacements, than plug in boxes that can control lamps.... so I'll likely have to piece it together as I go. I figure maybe start simple with a RemoteLinc, an Access Point or two and a few switches, so I can control my exterior lights and a few interior lights. Then make the jump when I have the funds to get the thermostats, PLC and software.
Then just keep expanding! |
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smileyw
Junior Member
USA
42 Posts |
Posted - 02/18/2008 : 08:30:45 AM
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Will HomeSeer even work with these?
I have HS, and I don't know of a plug in for these...
Just don't want anyone to go out and buy HS just to find out it doesn't work.
(FYI, I currently use HS with two TX16 X10 Tstats, and while HS works well, X10 itself does not work very well, and I would love to use these instead.
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FrayAdjacent
Junior Member
USA
45 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2008 : 06:52:55 AM
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Originally posted by smileyw
Will HomeSeer even work with these?
I have HS, and I don't know of a plug in for these...
Just don't want anyone to go out and buy HS just to find out it doesn't work.
(FYI, I currently use HS with two TX16 X10 Tstats, and while HS works well, X10 itself does not work very well, and I would love to use these instead.
W
Good question. Since the t-stats are pretty new... I'm wondering if the software (or what software, if any) actually works with them. |
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yroca23
New Member
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Posted - 02/19/2008 : 09:37:59 AM
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Originally posted by FrayAdjacent
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Originally posted by smileyw
Will HomeSeer even work with these?
I have HS, and I don't know of a plug in for these...
Just don't want anyone to go out and buy HS just to find out it doesn't work.
(FYI, I currently use HS with two TX16 X10 Tstats, and while HS works well, X10 itself does not work very well, and I would love to use these instead.
W
Good question. Since the t-stats are pretty new... I'm wondering if the software (or what software, if any) actually works with them.
Indigo for the mac will be supporting it by its release. Matt, the developer, is excellent at getting new products supported very close to their release date.
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MikeB
Advanced Member
USA
1753 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2008 : 02:49:37 AM
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| The ISY's current beta release also has support for the new thermostat adapter. |
Michael D. Boulanger
interfaceGO
www.interfaceGO.com
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cmhardwick
Senior Member
377 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2008 : 05:30:13 AM
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| I've asked Dave at PowerHome if he's going to support this, and someone else asked about the IRLinc. He didn't get a beta for the IRLinc, so until he gets it inhouse, direct support won't be there, but you can usually add basic support by configuring the device manually in PowerHome. Not sure on the thermostat yet. Waiting for an answer there. |
Cicero
New to home auto and driving my wife CRAZY!! (well, not new to driving her crazy, but you know what I mean) |
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splogue
Starting Member
USA
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wikner
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 02/21/2008 : 6:35:51 PM
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| If the user manually changes the temperature setting, mode, or fan setting, does the Insteon unit send info to the controller? Is there a way to query the thermostat about what its current temperature setting is? |
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MikeB
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 02/21/2008 : 6:37:14 PM
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If the user manually changes the temperature setting, mode, or fan setting, does the Insteon unit send info to the controller?
No.
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Is there a way to query the thermostat about what its current temperature setting is?
Yes. |
Michael D. Boulanger
interfaceGO
www.interfaceGO.com
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cmhardwick
Senior Member
377 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2008 : 06:49:44 AM
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| MikeB, sounds like it acts like a LampLinc module when the light is manually turned on, triggering local load. It doesn't broadcast the change, but a quick scan of devices (say with PowerHome) picks up the change and updates status screens |
Cicero
New to home auto and driving my wife CRAZY!! (well, not new to driving her crazy, but you know what I mean) |
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cmhardwick
Senior Member
377 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2008 : 11:45:38 AM
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Well, ordered mine today with the 1day programable thermostat. I mean, if I'm using my home auto software to actually control things, I don't need a higher level thermostat  . For my situation, that's all I'll need.
I'll post after I play with it some (and get a problem with my heatpump fixed!  ) |
Cicero
New to home auto and driving my wife CRAZY!! (well, not new to driving her crazy, but you know what I mean) |
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Xpendable
Advanced Member
USA
606 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2008 : 12:59:34 PM
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| I look forward to hearing your review. I'm going to be buying a new house sometime in the next few months, and I'm interested in integrating this into my J-LTFX software as well. |
Use Light Show Master to create animated light shows using your Insteon equipment. See how at http://www.jltsoft.com |
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martlist
Starting Member
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Posted - 02/26/2008 : 9:27:26 PM
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I have mine installed and working and without documentation on the protocols this is not going to be simple to reverse engineer.
I made a link to a specific temp and heat mode and looked at it in Powerhome and it is basically just a link to a specific control record.
Does Smarthome release the developer docs for new products like this? |
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cmhardwick
Senior Member
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Posted - 02/27/2008 : 05:48:36 AM
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| Only if you are a member of the developer group (purchase the SDK, etc). Hopefully Dave at PowerHome has one and will respond over there with some information soon. I figured, with all the functions it does, it wouldn't be like adding a standard switch that just wasn't setup (enter a description and how many groups, whether it can be a controller and a responder, etc) |
Cicero
New to home auto and driving my wife CRAZY!! (well, not new to driving her crazy, but you know what I mean) |
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Xpendable
Advanced Member
USA
606 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2008 : 12:37:08 PM
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Originally posted by cmhardwick
Only if you are a member of the developer group (purchase the SDK, etc). Hopefully Dave at PowerHome has one and will respond over there with some information soon. I figured, with all the functions it does, it wouldn't be like adding a standard switch that just wasn't setup (enter a description and how many groups, whether it can be a controller and a responder, etc)
The current Insteon command spec document available in the SDK does appear to document a whole set of thermostat commands and operations. These commands are not brand-specific. Generally speaking, a thermostat manufacturer (or Insteon adapter for a thermostat) should be implementing at least a subset of these commands, if not all of them. If you have access to the SDK, then you could probably develop full support for this thermostat adapter, assuming they (the manufacturer) followed the rules. |
Use Light Show Master to create animated light shows using your Insteon equipment. See how at http://www.jltsoft.com |
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joewirth
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 02/27/2008 : 8:47:44 PM
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I received my 1-Day Venstar today with INSTEON Adapter. Installed and it controls my furnace fine, but I cannot add it manually to HomeSeer and it wont link up to a KeypadLinc button.
Any help out there?
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