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Trevor
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matthew999
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 Posted - 12/28/2007 : 4:33:11 PM
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Very interesting.
So we would be able to control the thermostat from any Insteon controller... Makes for some interesting combinations. |
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Sub-Routine
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 12/28/2007 : 5:15:59 PM
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The temperature could be changed with scenes then? That would be very convenient! No need for the 7-day model then 
Thank you,
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cmhardwick
Senior Member
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Posted - 12/28/2007 : 5:30:45 PM
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Will it be wireless I hope? Hate to have to hook in an adapter and have an AC wire draped down the wall to the nearest outlet  . It should also get it's power from the existing wires. I agree with Rand about the scenes. Just setup timed events in your home auto software and be done with it. Especially if you have one that checks for a "vacation" flag, automatically set the temps to certain areas.
Another question - Will it provide 2 way communication so that you can read the temp? for example it's a cool morning so you need some heat, but in the afternoon it get much warmer so you might want to have it switch to air. This is a frequent occurance in the spring and fall in my area. |
Cicero
New to home auto and driving my wife CRAZY!! (well, not new to driving her crazy, but you know what I mean) |
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AD8BC
Senior Member
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Posted - 12/28/2007 : 9:03:25 PM
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| You said "The first version...". Does this mean it will be firmware-upgradeable? |
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Rob
Junior Member
USA
36 Posts |
Posted - 12/29/2007 : 10:51:20 AM
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Originally posted by Trevor
The first version of the thermostat adapter will allow you to control the set point/mode of your thermostat from any INSTEON controller. I will post an update as we get closer to the ship date.
Sounds great, looking forward to it! I would really like to see the ability to turn the furnace fan on and off as well. |
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Rob
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 12/29/2007 : 10:59:52 AM
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Originally posted by cmhardwick
Will it be wireless I hope? Hate to have to hook in an adapter and have an AC wire draped down the wall to the nearest outlet . It should also get it's power from the existing wires. I agree with Rand about the scenes. Just setup timed events in your home auto software and be done with it. Especially if you have one that checks for a "vacation" flag, automatically set the temps to certain areas.
Strictly a guess on my part, but I'm thinking the Insteon adapter will look something like the existing phone adapter option already available (http://www.smarthome.com/30416a.html). If that's the case, then it should a real slick system. |
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gatchel
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 12/29/2007 : 1:35:05 PM
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Originally posted by AD8BC
You said "The first version...". Does this mean it will be firmware-upgradeable?
That would be really, really nice. |
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christoc
New Member
USA
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Posted - 01/01/2008 : 6:53:30 PM
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| This would be great! I am in the market for someone very soon to do thermostat control for my house. |
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MikeB
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USA
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Xpendable
Advanced Member
USA
606 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2008 : 10:11:45 AM
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| Hmm, can't wait to get my hands on this. It's also on the Smarthome retail site (the link you provided was for the dealer site). Looks like the adapter will retail for $99.99. Add the 7-day programmable thermostat for $114.99. That's not too bad. |
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MikeB
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 01/08/2008 : 10:24:07 AM
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Or even better, if you're going to automate your HVAC go down and get the 1-day programmable for much less:
http://www.smarthome.com/30410a.html
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Michael D. Boulanger
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Sean P Logue
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USA
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cmhardwick
Senior Member
377 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2008 : 6:33:29 PM
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I hope the manuals are put up soon. I want to know if this sends inforamtion too, or is at least readable so we can see what the current temperature is, current setting, etc and then act on this accordingly through software (or the ISY I'm sure). But no matter what, I LIKE IT  |
Cicero
New to home auto and driving my wife CRAZY!! (well, not new to driving her crazy, but you know what I mean) |
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dss
Senior Member
USA
287 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2008 : 8:22:16 PM
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Looks like it is two way because on the decription it says:
"Use software to remotely check the current temperature and set point".
It also says
"Note: INSTEON Thermostat Adapter is an RF-only INSTEON product"
So it is an 2 way Insteon RF device
http://www.smarthome.com/2441v.html |
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jcthorne
Average Member
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Posted - 01/09/2008 : 05:39:42 AM
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The only down side to the single day programable version is that it only supports one stage cooling. Have to move up to the 7 day to get 2stage cool and 2 stage heat. Minor, at least they support it.
I look forward to seeing ISY support for this.
Looking at the thermostate options, is it possible to have the 7day stat and connect the insteon module AND the humidistat AND the outside temp sensor AND have insteon report all of these?
Is remote control of the fan possible? |
Edited by - jcthorne on 01/09/2008 05:40:16 AM |
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cmhardwick
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Posted - 01/09/2008 : 05:52:16 AM
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Thanks DSS, missed that part about "remotely check the current temp".
jcthorne, I would hope that remote control of ALL functions is provided, not just temperature. I would want to be able to switch from heating to cooling and vice-versa as well as change the fan from auto to on, etc. |
Cicero
New to home auto and driving my wife CRAZY!! (well, not new to driving her crazy, but you know what I mean) |
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ficklma1
New Member
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Posted - 01/09/2008 : 05:57:48 AM
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I'd really like to know more about the interface, etc. I've read it will be RF only communication. Would like to know all(or most) of the details. Trevor, do you have any more information you can provide?
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d_l
Average Member
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Posted - 01/09/2008 : 06:45:52 AM
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If this Insteon adapter is just an "Insteonized" Thermostat Telephone Controller, it should only have limited control functionality: switching the thermostat between its already programmed Comfort Settings and the Energy Saving settings, control of an auxiliary output, and perhaps a status report feedback. You should read the manual for the Thermostat Telephone Controller to see what it can do: http://www.smarthome.com/30416a.html.
It will be interesting to see how much functionality this new controller will actually have. |
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Sub-Routine
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 01/09/2008 : 6:04:50 PM
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Originally posted by jcthorne
The only down side to the single day programable version is that it only supports one stage cooling. Have to move up to the 7 day to get 2stage cool and 2 stage heat. Minor, at least they support it.
I look forward to seeing ISY support for this.
Looking at the thermostate options, is it possible to have the 7day stat and connect the insteon module AND the humidistat AND the outside temp sensor AND have insteon report all of these?
Is remote control of the fan possible?
This is what I see on the product page:
INSTEON Thermostat Adapter - Totaline / Venstar Compatible
Item# 2441V
Operation
Status LED 1 Green LED (normally on)
Setup Memory Non-volatile EEPROM
Heat set point Supports all set points of Thermostat
Cool set point Supports all set points of Thermostat
Temperature Status Request Supported
Humidity Status Request Supported
Mode Status Request Supported
Fan Status Request Supported
Mode Control Heat, Cool, Auto, OFF
Fan Control On, Auto
Degree Format (F/C) As Supported by Thermostat
I don't see an option for outdoor temp.
I guess we will have to wait until release to see out how to access all the features.
Rand
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cmhardwick
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Posted - 01/09/2008 : 6:41:37 PM
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| Rand, they've been updating that page then. I didn't see all that when I first looked at it a few days ago. Sounding good though. |
Cicero
New to home auto and driving my wife CRAZY!! (well, not new to driving her crazy, but you know what I mean) |
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jcthorne
Average Member
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 09:24:15 AM
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| Reading the installations manuals for the 2 7day units the difference is that the 1900 INCLUDES the humidistat and sensor where the 1800 allows it to be added later. Both have 2 cooling outputs 3 heating outputs and 2 aux outputs. |
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Bryan
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smileyw
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 01/12/2008 : 09:11:00 AM
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| I would like to know about monitoring. I am looking to replace a x10 TX-16, and I like the fact that it reports back the changes automatically. So, if the temp changes, it reports that back (to Homeseer in my case). I also know what people are doing with the Tstats at home... |
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apopilot
New Member
USA
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Posted - 01/13/2008 : 10:27:51 PM
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ficklma1
New Member
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Posted - 01/14/2008 : 06:02:39 AM
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What Insteon commands do you send to this unit? "Bright" to increase temp, "Dim" to lower? "On" to turn on cool/hot and "Off"..., etc.
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Jono
Starting Member
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Posted - 01/14/2008 : 2:50:22 PM
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It appears that the Venstar/Totaline wiring diagrams utilizes 6 conductor 18 gauge cable from the tstat back to the HVAC unit. Can anyone comment if all 6 wires are required? For example, if you are replacing a thermostat that uses only 4 wires will these Venstar/Totaline tstats work without having to run 2 extra wires? I would ask smarthome, but the product page says "For installation help and Technical support on this item, please call your local HVAC professional. Smarthome does not offer Technical Support on this item."
The wiring diagram can be found here:
http://www.smarthome.com/includes/showimage2005.asp?img=/images/30410aside1big.jpg
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Rob
Junior Member
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Posted - 01/14/2008 : 3:03:49 PM
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Originally posted by Jono
It appears that the Venstar/Totaline wiring diagrams utilizes 6 conductor 18 gauge cable from the tstat back to the HVAC unit. Can anyone comment if all 6 wires are required? For example, if you are replacing a thermostat that uses only 4 wires will these Venstar/Totaline tstats work without having to run 2 extra wires? I would ask smarthome, but the product page says "For installation help and Technical support on this item, please call your local HVAC professional. Smarthome does not offer Technical Support on this item."
The wiring diagram can be found here:
http://www.smarthome.com/includes/showimage2005.asp?img=/images/30410aside1big.jpg
Thanks
Your existing tstat is probably either battery-powered or manual, thus you don't have the common and return wires to supply power to it. The Venstar pulls power from the HVAC unit and does't take batteries so you'll need to get power to it. Fortunately for you they have this: http://www.venstar.com/Thermostats/ACC0800/.
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MikeB
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 01/14/2008 : 7:14:42 PM
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The thermostat is a 5-wire thermostat. No batteries required, like Rob stated above.
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For example, if you are replacing a thermostat that uses only 4 wires will these Venstar/Totaline tstats work without having to run 2 extra wires?
Be sure to pull the wire from behind your existing thermostat. Many times the installer will run 6 or 8 wire cable, and simply clip off the unused wires.
If you do only have a 4 wire cable to the thermostat, and don't want to run a new wire, Venstar offers this:
http://www.venstar.com/Thermostats/ACC0410/
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Michael D. Boulanger
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Edited by - MikeB on 01/14/2008 7:15:52 PM |
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apopilot
New Member
USA
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Posted - 01/15/2008 : 09:32:57 AM
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| I have 5 wires. Will this do the job? |
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Rob
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 01/15/2008 : 10:11:57 AM
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Originally posted by apopilot
I have 5 wires. Will this do the job?
As long as you get power to the tstat you should be fine. |
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