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EricK
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 Posted - 07/28/2012 : 11:39:52 AM
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I have a Dinner scene which turns on several lights including the kitchen and island lights. It also turns on the cross-linked KPL LEDs for the lights on multiple KPLs around the house. This has been working fine. I have a KPL in the kitchen backsplash, about two years old, and assigned one button as the controller and responder of the Dinner scene in HL. This KPL button controls the scene fine except for one problem. It cannot turn on the KPL leds for buttons on the same KPL. The Dinner button is H and set to non-toggle on, B is Kitchen, and D is island. When I hit H, the Kitchen and Island lights do turn on as part of the scene, but B and D do not light up. Secondary KPL LED on the other KPLs work fine.
If I try to do a drag and drop under links, HL will not allow it. IS there some limitation in this KPL against turning on another KPL LED on the same keypad. I think I might just have to try a manual link for this.
Thanks,
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Devices (approx): 8 KPLs, 15 switchlincs, 3 outletlincs, Lamp-linc, Appliance-linc, SL, HL, i/o-linc with Somfy bridge, 2 access points. |
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Tfitzpatri8
Administrator
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Posted - 07/28/2012 : 11:57:30 AM
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Use HL's Scene tool to accomplish that.
- Click on the Scenes tab at the upper left. Press the + sign to Add a Scene.
- Name the scene and click OK to see a list of devices with empty check boxes.
- Click on the Room or Device column title to resort the list on that column, either A-Z or Z-A.
- Find the KeypadLinc and click the + sign next to it to see all of its buttons.
- Place checks in the Controller and Responder columns as is appropriate.
- For responder dimmers, click Edit and adjust the dimmer level and ramp rate if necessary.
- Repeat for any other devices that should be part of the scene.
- When done, click on the Included column header to see your scene. If everything is good, click on the Save button, then watch the bottom status indicator as all the links and programming are written out to devices.
- Going forward, use the Scenes tool instead of the Links tab to make any adjustments to your scenes.
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EricK
Senior Member
277 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2012 : 12:27:25 PM
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Ok. need level 2 support for this. I set things up in HL and have a Dinner button on the KPL Great Room Spots that controls the scene and all of the cross linked KPL LEDs fine. I had an all off on the KPL Backslpash Cabinet Lights that we never used, so I changed this button to be a controller and responder of the Dinner scene. When the scene function did not work, I tried the link function, and HL would not let me drop the desired responder into the box.
The Dinner button on the KPL Backsplash Cabinet Lights does turn on the Cabinet lights (load) and the Kitchen KPL LED on the same KPL.
The Dinner button on the KPL Backsplash Cabinet Lights does not turn on B and D on the Same KPL, Breakfast and Island.
The Dinner button on the KPL Great Room Spots controls everything fine.
Check out the pic to see if this helps to clarify my problem.
Thanks,
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Devices (approx): 8 KPLs, 15 switchlincs, 3 outletlincs, Lamp-linc, Appliance-linc, SL, HL, i/o-linc with Somfy bridge, 2 access points. |
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Tfitzpatri8
Administrator
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Posted - 07/28/2012 : 12:43:59 PM
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| You posted to a user-to-user forum, not to a technical support site. If you don't find the answers you need here, Smarthome does offer technical support for Insteon products via their Insteon Gold support phone number--it's on the bottom of the Quick Start Guides that ship with all Insteon devices. |
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EricK
Senior Member
277 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2012 : 1:02:04 PM
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Yes I am aware and have received help from you and other users before. I read the forum almost daily so I can learn as much as possible about Insteon. Usually I get solutions to issues here without the need to call the gold line.
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Devices (approx): 8 KPLs, 15 switchlincs, 3 outletlincs, Lamp-linc, Appliance-linc, SL, HL, i/o-linc with Somfy bridge, 2 access points. |
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stusviews
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 07/28/2012 : 1:25:34 PM
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| To have a KPL button control a different button on the same KPL, hold down the controller button until it begins to blink, release, hold down the responder button until the blinking ceases. Do NOT use the set button. |
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EricK
Senior Member
277 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2012 : 3:26:20 PM
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I was able to manually program the island button, I'll do the breakfast button later. Not sure why this is not setting up in HL. HL is obviously writing to the device and the behavior I want is working for the Kitchen (C)button, just not the B + D.
Thanks,
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Devices (approx): 8 KPLs, 15 switchlincs, 3 outletlincs, Lamp-linc, Appliance-linc, SL, HL, i/o-linc with Somfy bridge, 2 access points. |
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stusviews
Advanced Member
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Posted - 07/28/2012 : 5:51:14 PM
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I'm confused. In your first post, B was the kitchen, now it's C. Also, what do you mean by "B + D?"
Referring to your original post, is seems that you want H to be the controller of two separate devices, one controlled by button B and the other controlled by button D and that you wand both buttons B and C to respond to H. Is that correct? |
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EricK
Senior Member
277 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2012 : 8:22:48 PM
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On the first post it was a mistake about the kitchen lights which are button C not B. C does respond to button H (dinner scene). i do want Buttons B and D to be controlled by the H button on the same kpl. b and D should turn on when H is pressed, they don't. B is cross linked with a switchlinc dimmer that controls the breakfast lights that does respond to H, but B does not light up. Same thing with D which is cross linked with the Island light switchlinc on off that does respond to H, but D does not light up.
So all of the load controlling devices respond to The scene when activated by H and the C led light up (kitchen lights), but the B and D LEDs do not light up.
When the scene is triggered from another KPL (kpl great room spots), everything works as programmed by the HL scene. So the scene is programmed correctly, and HL is writing to the device, just two of the responders on the KPL backsplash cabinet lights are not responding. Sorry about the low res pic which does show the checks in the responder column for B ( breakfast) and D (island).
Thanks
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Devices (approx): 8 KPLs, 15 switchlincs, 3 outletlincs, Lamp-linc, Appliance-linc, SL, HL, i/o-linc with Somfy bridge, 2 access points. |
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stusviews
Advanced Member
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Posted - 07/28/2012 : 10:03:59 PM
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Originally posted by stusviews
To have a KPL button control a different button on the same KPL, hold down the controller button until it begins to blink, release, hold down the responder button until the blinking ceases.
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EricK
Senior Member
277 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2012 : 05:40:50 AM
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Manually links look to be the solution. Not sure why HL is letting me down on this one.
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Devices (approx): 8 KPLs, 15 switchlincs, 3 outletlincs, Lamp-linc, Appliance-linc, SL, HL, i/o-linc with Somfy bridge, 2 access points. |
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