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stusviews
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Posted - 07/06/2012 :  5:11:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BLH

The FCC Database files for the BulbLinc. Page 18 of the test report 93071-7. Has an RF Transmitter Output List.
I suspect it can resend Insteon RF commands.


If so, it should be quite efficient, particularly in a ceiling fixture.

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jdale
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Posted - 07/06/2012 :  5:28:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit jdale's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The more information on the sales page, the better. I appreciate that they put the device category and subcategory up there. Some items they do, some they don't. Much prefer to get an official answer than have to glean through forums for the magic numbers....

Insteon FAQ: http://goo.gl/qNTNr
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BLH
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Posted - 07/07/2012 :  03:02:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Device Category and Subcategory was a nice addition to the chart.
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absolootbs
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Posted - 08/23/2012 :  08:28:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i noticed that smarthome has now gone as far as to acknowledge the buzzing on the product page for these ("Important Note
When in use, INSTEON LED Bulb emits a subtle buzzing noise that is barely noticeable. However, when several bulbs are installed in a single location, the buzzing may become more apparent"). now that they've been out for a while and apparently plenty of people have bought them (they're currently on backorder), i wondered if anyone else could comment on the severity of the buzzing, or lack thereof. since the powerline only lamplinc is no longer available, and the dual band costs $20 more than these, i'm considering going the bulblinc route for the end table lamps in my living room. if you're sitting on the couch, you're between the two lamps, and if you're on the loveseat, you're next to one of them. so, decently close proximity either way. most of the time there is a tv on in the room at a moderate volume, but not always (SO likes to shut it off and read when i'm not around). given those circumstances, can anyone give an opinion on whether or not they think the buzzing will be noticeable and/or a problem? if yes... all the time, or only when the room is silent?
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EVIL Teken
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Posted - 08/23/2012 :  3:29:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by absolootbs

i noticed that smarthome has now gone as far as to acknowledge the buzzing on the product page for these ("Important Note
When in use, INSTEON LED Bulb emits a subtle buzzing noise that is barely noticeable. However, when several bulbs are installed in a single location, the buzzing may become more apparent"). now that they've been out for a while and apparently plenty of people have bought them (they're currently on backorder), i wondered if anyone else could comment on the severity of the buzzing, or lack thereof. since the powerline only lamplinc is no longer available, and the dual band costs $20 more than these, i'm considering going the bulblinc route for the end table lamps in my living room. if you're sitting on the couch, you're between the two lamps, and if you're on the loveseat, you're next to one of them. so, decently close proximity either way. most of the time there is a tv on in the room at a moderate volume, but not always (SO likes to shut it off and read when i'm not around). given those circumstances, can anyone give an opinion on whether or not they think the buzzing will be noticeable and/or a problem? if yes... all the time, or only when the room is silent?



In the exact same boat as you! If the SO hears any buzzing besides me farting, she won't be happy.

Teken . . .
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jzsjr
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Posted - 08/31/2012 :  3:12:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there a way to control the initial brightness on the led bulb? I use this in a child's room using smartlinc and would prefer it turning on at a dim level.
thanks,
Jim
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stusviews
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Posted - 08/31/2012 :  3:24:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Software such as HouseLinc can be used to link at a particular On-level (and/or ramp rate). HouseLinc can also be used to create, modify, and/or delete all SmartLinc links so you don't need to run around the house pushing buttons

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Guli
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Posted - 09/07/2012 :  2:43:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
:/

I got my new Bulb today. I managed to detect it with my Smartlinc and play with it for a while. Somehow I decided to remove it from my scene in Smartlinc and try to detect it from another outlet (I'm using it in a lamp) which is a little bit farther. I was able to detect it, but now I'm not able to turn it on anymore. I tried to unlink it properly (by clicking on the Smartlink button twice) a few times after that, but when I relink, it's still detected but I can't turn it on.

I don't think it's dead already, because I can detect it, but how can I turn it on again?

Thanks for any advices

:/

- Guli
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stusviews
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Posted - 09/07/2012 :  3:14:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
To unlink the Insteon bulb from SmartLinc:

1. Make sure the lamp socket is on by screwing in another bulb (and turning the lamp on if needed). Leave it on.
2. Remove the test bulb.
3. Click on the scene and select Remove. The Add/Remove Status should indicate Waiting.....
(not by "clicking on the SmartLinc button twice")

Within 4 minutes, screw the Insteon bulb into the lamp socket.

Wait at least 4 minutes more, then:

Unscrew the Insteon bulb. Click on the scene and select Add. Screw in the Insteon bulb within 4 minutes.

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jdale
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Posted - 09/08/2012 :  09:35:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit jdale's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If it seems like you have communication with the device, but you can't turn it on, it's possible you linked it while it was already off. In that case, whenever you try to remotely turn it on, it will revert to that state -- and remain off. A test for this is to use the dim/brighten functions to brighten it. If that works, this is probably what happened.

If so, just make sure it is on, and then relink it. You don't need to unlink it first.

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barnabas1969
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Posted - 09/23/2012 :  6:45:13 PM  Show Profile  Send barnabas1969 an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Okie dokie... I bought a pair of Insteon LED bulbs, they shipped on 8/8/2012. I finally got around to trying them tonight. Here are my impressions...

I compared several different "bulbs" in two identical table lamps with identical shades. Here are my observations:

The Philips EnduraLED is slightly yellower/dimmer than one of my 60-watt-replacement CFL's. But very close. Of course, the CFL is not dimmable, and I've never found a dimmable CFL that works well without flickering.

The Philips EnduraLED is slightly yellower than a 60-watt GE incandescent fan bulb, but about the same brightness. They are very, very close in color. I doubt that you would notice the difference unless you compared them side by side.

The Smarthome LED bulb is MUCH whiter than the 60-watt GE incandescent fan bulb (and the CFL). It has a similar brightness to the incandescent bulb, but the beam pattern is MUCH more focused upward, toward the ceiling when the bulb is screwed into a table lamp.

Remember how much everyone hated the old CFL's and the old fluorescent "circ-lite"? Well... these new, expensive LED bulbs from Smarthome have the same type of light as what those old, hated lights put out.

I'm going to request a refund. I hope it hasn't been too long (more than a month) since they shipped them. I really didn't think I would dislike them so much... but I like the Philips bulb much, much better... and I would prefer to use an Insteon dimmer with my lamps and two Philips bulbs, instead of the new Insteon LED.

Oh... I didn't hear any sound coming from my Insteon bulbs... but the color temperature and beam pattern are terrible.
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BLH
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Posted - 09/24/2012 :  03:25:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since the Insteon LED bulb is specified as a 3000K color temperature and the Phillips is 2700K like most CFLs are. I am not surprised you saw a difference.
Also not surprised that the beam pattern was upward to the ceiling when in a table lamp. I have a few other brands that are the same way.
I do like the Philips EnduraLED bulbs myself and just tried a Sylvania that was also very acceptable.
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Guli
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Posted - 09/24/2012 :  08:10:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jdale

If it seems like you have communication with the device, but you can't turn it on, it's possible you linked it while it was already off. In that case, whenever you try to remotely turn it on, it will revert to that state -- and remain off. A test for this is to use the dim/brighten functions to brighten it. If that works, this is probably what happened.

If so, just make sure it is on, and then relink it. You don't need to unlink it first.



Thanks for your inputs. I'm able to unlink and relink, to as you said, jdale, it's always returning to Off status. I tried to play with brightness, but it doesn't seem to affect it. It always remain in off state. Is there any other way to turn it back on?

Thanks a lot!

- Guli
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vtmaestro
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Posted - 10/05/2012 :  9:28:04 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had the same problem in that somehow I ended up linking the Insteon LED bulb in the off position so it would never turn on. The problem is associated with how the bulb was linked into the off position in a scene in your Smartlinc. Here's the fix:

1. Use a Keypadlinc and set one of the buttons for linking (i.e "A")

2. Unscrew your bulb and re-screw it in and allow the bulb to link to the Keypadlinc (i.e. "A").

3. QUICKLY Double Click on the Keypadlinc (i.e. "A" or whatever button you use to link to the LED Bulb) so that the Insteon LED bulb will be turned on.

4. Now that the bulb is on, go to the original Smartlinc scene where the LED bulb is linked. Go ahead and remove the LED bulb from the scene by clicking "remove." (within the scene itself). Unscrew the bulb and re-screw it back in to complete the removal from the scene. Save the scene and exit back to your room page.

5. Your LED bulb should now be in the default "on" position. Go ahead and relink the bulb to the Smartlinc scene.

6. Unlink the bulb from the Keypadlinc (i.e. "A") and relink to the Keypadlinc or any other Insteon device through the normal linking mode.

Hope that helps!

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