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AndrewBienhaus
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Canada
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 Posted - 06/17/2012 : 12:31:56 PM
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hi guys,
hope you can help.
new SwitchLinc Relay wall relay switch from insteon.
I have it firing a relay, for fan control purposes, and was hoping to make a macro for some timing issues...
but, while I can turn the switch on and off manually, and it's lit up, and fires the output relay etc, I can only seem to be able to remotely turn it on.
the off function, and status update in mControl, aren't doing anything.
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BLH
Advanced Member
3754 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2012 : 1:09:59 PM
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Has mControl been updated to control the new I2CS Insteon Protocol? Shipping starting in March 2012.
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AndrewBienhaus
Starting Member
Canada
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Posted - 06/17/2012 : 1:17:54 PM
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Pretty sure.
Just installed mControl v3 last week, and brought the machine up to date from v2.
The SwitchLinc devices, are new, but I've had them for at least 9 months. (sitting on a shelf waiting for time to play)
Is there anything in the versioning tag on the switch that will help?
2476S
v5.6
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jdale
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 06/17/2012 : 1:24:25 PM
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Often when you can turn a device on but not off, the issue is noise from the load. That is, when the fan is on, it is creating noise that prevents the switchlinc from receiving the off signal.
The easiest test would be to disconnect the load wire and cap it off. Then see if you can remotely turn the switchlinc on and off. If you can, but you can't when the fan is connected, then you need a noise filter on the fan. |
Insteon FAQ: http://goo.gl/qNTNr |
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BLH
Advanced Member
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Posted - 06/17/2012 : 1:31:53 PM
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| If they are 9 months old. Then I2CS is not a factor. |
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AndrewBienhaus
Starting Member
Canada
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Posted - 06/17/2012 : 1:37:04 PM
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Ok, thanks.
Will have to try that.
Funny thing is that it's just firing a relay, that is then signalling the furnace to come on. (24v signal) So there is no real fan on the line.
Is there a load requirement on the output circuit, before it will realize it's on, and/or be willing to turn off maybe? (the only load is a coil on the relay) |
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jdale
Advanced Member
USA
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Posted - 06/17/2012 : 2:36:59 PM
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There's no load requirement, the switchlinc should work fine even with no load at all.
Seems weird that a relay would be noisy. But in any case the test is pretty easy (just disconnect the red load wire) and should give you a clear answer either way. |
Insteon FAQ: http://goo.gl/qNTNr |
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Geo
Advanced Member
Canada
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Posted - 06/17/2012 : 4:10:33 PM
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| It's highly unlikely that the fan would be a problem - all fans I've seenh use induction motor which does not generate electrical noise. But keep inb mind that the relay is very much an inductor and can create all kinds of problems. What kind of a relay is it firing? |
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AndrewBienhaus
Starting Member
Canada
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 04:00:54 AM
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| Just a simple off the shelf 120v relay. |
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AndrewBienhaus
Starting Member
Canada
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 10:26:44 AM
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ok, so load wire (red) disconnected, and behavoir is the same.
Will turn on, but not turn off, remotely. |
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Tfitzpatri8
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 10:33:40 AM
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Sounds like there may be some issue with how the device is set up in your software.
If you link another switch or remote control directly to this switch, does it turn on and off as expected? If so, that suggests some sort of software setting specific to mControl. In that case, see: http://www.embeddedautomation.com/forum/ |
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AndrewBienhaus
Starting Member
Canada
8 Posts |
Posted - 06/18/2012 : 11:38:21 AM
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problem resolved.
after much fiddling, and running a cord from another outlet in the room, it's working 100%.
So, there is something about that one outlet, that is different from other things in the house.
RF bridge is in place, and 20 other insteon devices are working... anyone else ever seen this? Should I take the outlet apart? |
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Geo
Advanced Member
Canada
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 12:03:51 PM
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| It's a question what else is connected on the same circuit. It may be attenuating the signal. |
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AndrewBienhaus
Starting Member
Canada
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Posted - 06/18/2012 : 12:24:10 PM
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Eating the signal? as in sucking it up?
I "think", that my APC home theatre line filter may be on the same circuit, but, then again, the Insteon USB adapter is on that same plug too.
Is it ever a problem if it's too close to the USB to power, adapter? |
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Geo
Advanced Member
Canada
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Posted - 06/19/2012 : 03:42:14 AM
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Proximity to a controller shouldn't be a problem. The stronger the signal (up to a point, but the transmitters never exceed it) the better.
All modern electronics attenuate (eat up) the powerline signal because they must (by law) stop the crap they generate internally which is in the same frequency range as the powerline signal, from reaching the power lines. |
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switchlinc relay that will not remote off
