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photoret
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Posted - 03/28/2012 :  7:51:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In another discussion I read the ICON On/Off Switch 2876SB was discontinued- yep confirmed this myself can no longer purchase it online. This is very disappointing- switch was very economical and reliable.
Anyone have any idea why Insteon made this decision to take it off the market?

Tfitzpatri8
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Posted - 03/28/2012 :  8:09:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absent any official announcements, we can only speculate.

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stusviews
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Posted - 03/28/2012 :  9:57:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In-LinLinc Relay is also gone, replaced by the costlier devices with sense or dual-band. Both additional features are useful, but not always needed.

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photoret
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Posted - 03/28/2012 :  10:35:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is not a speculation- try buying one on-line from the sponsor of this forum.
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Tfitzpatri8
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Posted - 03/28/2012 :  10:39:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absent any announcement from Smarthome, we can only speculate why the product line has been discontinued. Wasn't that what you were asking?

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photoret
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Posted - 03/28/2012 :  10:50:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tfitzpatri8

Absent any announcement from Smarthome, we can only speculate why the product line has been discontinued. Wasn't that what you were asking?



You are correct. Let me rephrase the question- Anyone have any idea why Smarthome no longer has the ICON On/Off 2876SB switch available for purchase online?
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ScottAvery
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Posted - 03/29/2012 :  07:57:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have an idea, but it would only be speculation.
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jdale
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Posted - 03/29/2012 :  09:05:08 AM  Show Profile  Visit jdale's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Some of these devices are probably in the process of being updated. There are protocol updates going on currently. They might run out of stock of the old ones before the new ones are ready. In this case it would just be temporary.

Or the alternative is that redundant items may be eliminated just to simplify the product line. E.g. the Icon Relay is redundant with the SwitchLinc Relay. Regular InLineLinc is redundant with the dual-band version.

Personally I hope it's the former and not the latter, but we just have to wait and see.

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EVIL Teken
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Posted - 03/29/2012 :  09:24:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am really hoping its just a case of updating the product line. The reason for the icon line was to provide the user a cheaper alternative where those devices made the most sense. It allowed the average guy to enjoy all of the powers and benefits of the Insteon tech with out breaking the bank.

If it was simply to stream line the sales offerings. That is a brutal reason, and only hits long terms sales.

Teken . . .

Edited by - EVIL Teken on 03/29/2012 09:25:16 AM
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silverton38
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Posted - 03/29/2012 :  09:28:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe they are moving all devices to Dual Band. That will improve the reliability and I am in full support of this direction.
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EVIL Teken
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Posted - 03/29/2012 :  09:36:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by silverton38

I believe they are moving all devices to Dual Band. That will improve the reliability and I am in full support of this direction.




I support this direction as well. Having said that, I really hope they offer some cheaper alternatives in line with the Icon pricing structure.

Teken . . .
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BLH
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Posted - 03/29/2012 :  09:52:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well the sales page doesn't say Discontinued yet.
http://www.smarthome.com/2876SB/ICON-Relay-INSTEON-Remote-Control-On-Off-Switch-Non-Dimming-White/p.aspx
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EVIL Teken
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Posted - 03/29/2012 :  11:37:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BLH

Well the sales page doesn't say Discontinued yet.
http://www.smarthome.com/2876SB/ICON-Relay-INSTEON-Remote-Control-On-Off-Switch-Non-Dimming-White/p.aspx




Yeah, they just don't let you buy it! You will notice that there is no direct link to place a item into a cart for purchase.

Teken . . .
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stusviews
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Posted - 03/29/2012 :  12:00:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ICON dimmer is gone.

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BLH
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Posted - 03/29/2012 :  3:53:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You will not find the 2876DB or 2876SB on the sales pages.
I had to manually use the modules web address to even find it.

Many times they add a big red Discontinued message to the sales page. Not there yet but maybe someones has not added it yet.

Edited by - BLH on 03/29/2012 4:10:21 PM
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stusviews
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Posted - 03/29/2012 :  4:30:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The dimmer that isn't there: http://www.smarthome.com/2876DB/ICON-Dimmer-INSTEON-Remote-Control-Dimmer-Switch/p.aspx

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photoret
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Posted - 03/29/2012 :  4:46:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I fully support initiatives to further develop the Insteon product as well; however, it is our (user & consumers) best interest to have a broad range of products available. A wider selection of product should increase the user base- larger user base provides us with a larger voice...

"Dual band" is a good thing- if it is required. Keep in mind not all installations will require this fuctionaility as such why pay for someting that is not going to be utilized. Do-it yourselfers typically pride themseleves on really getting to understand the products they utilize. This is reflected in their underlying designs, layouts and intallations. To me its all about getting it done with just enough anything extra would be considered wasteful.
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krkeegan
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Posted - 04/25/2012 :  11:42:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well the Icon Relay briefly showed up as a back ordered item yesterday, I quickly ordered a bunch. This morning I was informed that the item was not back ordered but was discontinued. The product page says discontinued too. So it looks like this is the official announcement of the end of the "budget" line of products.

I agree with the comments above that "dual band" is a good thing for reliability. But they should let customers choose whether dual band is necessary. In my case I have a number of three and four way switches and it is a total waste of money to buy dual bad switches for the "companion" switches that do not actually carry the load. Such a shame.
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jdale
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Posted - 04/25/2012 :  12:05:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit jdale's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Seems a shame. Dual band could have been a nice distinguishing feature. E.g. the main product line all dual-band, the cheaper Icon products powerline only. And personally I don't really care for the Switchlinc-style LED bar on non-dimming switches.

Perhaps they'll bring something back after they've finished updating all the core products to i2cs.

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stusviews
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Posted - 04/25/2012 :  12:08:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A dual-band SwitchLinc is not required in any installation.

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scotsmanintexas
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Posted - 05/22/2012 :  04:23:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really annoyed about this too. I have them throughout my house and have always found them more attractive than the Switchlinc with the LED bar. The small orange light was much less intrusive, particularly in a dark room, and the light does not shine through the plastic as it does with the switchlinc. And they were better value.

Hope they bring them back in an updated form. I need to buy a few more. I'd love to hear from Smarthome about this.
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rainman50
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Posted - 09/19/2012 :  09:57:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bought a boat load of icon dimmers over the years. I actually prefer the looks of the more base unit, like others have mentioned here. Also the price was reasonable. I'm glad I don't need many more. It is kind of nice to have the dual band operation in the current offerings but a more discounted one would be appreciated. I think Smarthome over time will see they need a less cost unit for the people that can't justify the high cost of the current units. Major bummer.
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