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thelovins Posted - 04/16/2012 : 12:51:04 PM
I have a circuit in my house that I can not get any switch links to work correctly on. I know it is not a phase issue but I discovered today that all of my smoke detectors are on the same circuit.

Has anyone ever ran into an issue with smoke detectors interfering with a switchlink? All of my detectors are connected so if one goes off they all do.

Thanks
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Alpha_Assault Posted - 08/03/2012 : 7:01:59 PM
Sounds like time for a compilation of known 915 Mhz devices for the FAQ
ELA Posted - 08/03/2012 : 12:41:45 PM
Hello Stu,
I have two Remote Temperature gauges that use 915Mhz.
They only send once every 5 seconds or so and I have not noticed any interference to my Insteon Install.

I have a test device that can monitor the Insteon 915Mhz RF comms. What is interesting is that I am able to see that the Insteon PLM -RF transceiver- does "see" the transmissions from the Temperature gauges.

It "wakes up" and reports a received signal strength.
The received signal is very short in duration however and thus does not appear to interfere.

If it were transmitting more often or statistically happened to transmit just prior to an Insteon RF device transmission, then it may cause interference.
stusviews Posted - 08/02/2012 : 9:59:02 PM
Other devices use 915 MHz as well:
http://www.lacrossetechnology.com/sensors.php#915
http://www.amazon.com/AutoPage-Remote-Starter-Channel-Transmitter/dp/B0034DZMKS
http://www.fullcompass.com/product/366293.html

That doesn't mean that they will or that they won't interfere with Insteon RF. I don't have any experience with such devices. I don't know if they even get along with each other

Anyone have a non-Insteon 915 MHz device?
EVIL Teken Posted - 08/02/2012 : 1:36:31 PM
The First Alert *One Link* hardwired and RF only devices run on 915 Mhz and are 3 channel freq hopping. More than likely Kidde is using the same as this is the spectrum designated for such devices.

Some Kidde smoke / co alarms use DIP switches to change the channel within the frequency spectrum they are on to avoid tripping near by sensors.

Teken . . .
BLH Posted - 08/02/2012 : 12:08:24 PM
They should have an FCC ID number on them
You could then go to the FCC Database and see what frequency it uses.
Insteon is 915 MHz.
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm
Janetwireless Posted - 08/02/2012 : 11:48:56 AM
Hi, thanks for the info. I called first alert. They do RF but the specs didn't say what ranges they used. They checked and said they have thousands of channels they can use and the alarms will not interfere with Insteon nor will Insteon interfere with the smoke detectors. So we are going to try this out (and test it a couple of times before we get comfortable.
FloridaGary Posted - 08/02/2012 : 11:11:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Janetwireless

thelovins - Did you ever figure out what was causing the problem. We are looking at smoke detectors to connect and would like to use the wireless connected ones and want to make sure there is no compatibility problems with insteon.



I have 13 smoke detectors in my home, one of them is wireless and it has not caused any issues with my Insteon network.

Gary
Janetwireless Posted - 08/01/2012 : 1:30:18 PM
thelovins - Did you ever figure out what was causing the problem. We are looking at smoke detectors to connect and would like to use the wireless connected ones and want to make sure there is no compatibility problems with insteon.
stusviews Posted - 04/17/2012 : 3:16:07 PM
It's unusual to have all smoke detectors on one circuit AND anything else on that same circuit. What else is on that circuit?

Also, Kidde (and most other) smoke detectors can be removed/disconnected without doing any wiring, just twist and pull the plug, so you can easily do that as a test.
thelovins Posted - 04/17/2012 : 2:51:21 PM
I have the SignaLinc - INSTEON Phase Coupler, Hardwired.
EVIL Teken Posted - 04/16/2012 : 2:28:07 PM
What do you have in your Inseon network to couple both legs of the electrical system?

Teken . . .
thelovins Posted - 04/16/2012 : 2:25:04 PM
They are all Kidde detectors. 2 of them are fire and monoxide the rest are plain. There is no alarm panel. Not sure what the EOL resistor would be so I am going to say that it is not.



quote:
Originally posted by EVIL Teken

There may be filters inside of the smoke detectors that are absorbing the signal. What brand of smoke alarm do you have? Also, is it wired into an alarm panel? Also is it also monitored with a EOL resistor?

Teken . . .

EVIL Teken Posted - 04/16/2012 : 2:19:31 PM
There may be filters inside of the smoke detectors that are absorbing the signal. What brand of smoke alarm do you have? Also, is it wired into an alarm panel? Also is it also monitored with a EOL resistor?

Teken . . .
Tfitzpatri8 Posted - 04/16/2012 : 1:34:53 PM
How many SwitchLincs are on the circuit? Have you tried adding a dual band switch or an Access Point to an outlet on the same breaker?

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